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Women are meant to be pampered PDF Print E-mail
Written by Virag   
Tuesday, 14 July 2009 17:13

And I am back to Bollywood, my favorite style to bring forth the side of men - unexplored and unthought-of hitherto.

Abhay is a law graduate and after completing his graduation goes to his village where he meets this village damsel named Mangla and falls in love with her exhibiting the Raj Syndrome explained in Look before you leap; Learn before you Love; and keeps tolerating her gestures just to keep the interaction alive with her and get her attention. Mangla also knows she can be rude to him, Abhay won't mind it. And Abhay actually does not mind it when she calls him shameless. She even goes to the extent of telling him that if he was her husband, she would have given him poisoned tea, to which Abhay replies, "If you'd been my wife, I would have drunken the tea without any glitches."

I posted a link to news titled Court forcing men out of homes for domestic violence which sparked off a debate on Facebook and one of my friends reverted back telling that, "Women are meant to be pampered." I do not blame him. This is how men are hardwired and the hardwiring breaks only when they are hit below the belt.

The continuous negative projection of men be it in media or history, the constant emotional castration that men are subjected to and the consistently rising expectations from today's men which does not allow men either to come out of their traditional role (that of a PROTECTOR and a PROVIDER) or shift their identity ultimately leads to them becoming insensitive, drawn away from their experiential domain, unable to sense another man's pain.

Additionally the above fact also leads to men viewing women as victims (under all circumstances) and fall in love with them only after weakening them. Moreover, they see abusive females as empowered ones and treat their abuse as Empowerment of Women even if the abuse is directed towards men. Being severe victims of the LOOKING GOOD SYNDROME, and fed constantly with a negative image of man coupled with the befooling done under the phrase, "It's a male dominated world,", men have a very big urge to disprove their visibly negative image and in the process ultimately consider women pamperment as the only way to a woman's heart.

However, what they don't realize is the pitfalls of such a biased and anti-male psyche. Women find it very easy to pit men against each other and get their work done. Examples of such a behavior are not far to find. Often women pit their fathers and brothers against their husbands. The men (fathers and brothers) in a bid to pamper her often ignore or at times overlook the woman's misdeeds, falsities, instigations and manipulations and screw the life of the poor husband who is anyway caught in the cobweb of the Gender Arsenal conspired against him.

Exasperated men either become Baazigars or commit suicides and all this is leading ultimately to a marriage less and a fatherless society which is ultimately going to harm women. Marriage is needed more for women than men and the day won't be far when women will be begging for husbands on national highway and still won't get. Already men in the West have stopped marrying due to the financial Tsunami enthralled upon them by western marital laws and their use (read misuse).

All this is going on since men pamper women and in wake of the above scenario, the sentence, Women are meant to be pampered is worth a debate. Are there any takers for the debate?

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Subhajit Dasgupta  - Virag you are missing the point     |72.29.214.xxx |15-07-2009 01:05:02
First of all, I wanted to say the friend Virag mentioned above is me. Second of all, although it's a cliche, every
person is different. Everyone goes through different kind of trauma and pleasure in his/her own life and many a times
sees life as reflection of his own experiences or gathered knowledge. I don't blame Virag for his point of view. But
since he has dedicated a write-up on me, I think I should reciprocate.

I don't know man what your experience is in
life which influenced you directly or indirectly. I respect that. But when you post your point of view in a forum, you
should have the courage to accept others' as well. At least, you should have shown the guts to mention my name above.
That wouldn't have irked me to return the favor. Seriously, I didn't want to. But dude, you are going too far with
this.

Now about the couple of comments you quoted me as, both are related in the way, it's not meant for everyone,
just like I said, every man has different perspective towards life and brought up differently. You said I am hardwired
to think women should be pampered. That might be true. Actually that is absolutely true. But you know what? I don't
regret of being hardwired. You know why? 'Coz I have the confidence of being a man and I think I can handle any
situation quite well. The comment was meant for those people who sees life not too seriously, but just well enough. I
recognize that a man and a woman each has their own strength and so I have mine. I can see the point you are coming
from, that's your point of view and that's how you are 'hardwired'. That's fine dude. But I would be too damn low if I
take your path. Well, I didn't want to say that, but you insist me. And hey that's your way, be happy with it. And if I
ever get hit below the belt, I will accept that as part of my fault and will live with it. I can swear by anyone you ask
me to that I won't lament and take my...
Virag  - I am successful   |122.167.70.xxx |15-07-2009 22:38:46
Your reaction simply says that I have hit the nail right at spot. I have no qualms in telling your name, but you were
not my target. You took it personally, though the article was dedicated to you.

World having more men than women does
not mean male dominated world. More men die, more men undertake risky jobs. World is not aware of men's issues and thus
there is no concept of men's rights.

Every where we see only anti-male language and even before a crime is proved the
man is deemed guilty, whereas women criminals are allowed to go scot free under the same presumption of male
dominance.

And abuse of men is not funny to be developed as a sense of humor.

I am just bringing the other side of the
coin, if people can't accept it, its fine.
Virag  - You are the one who is missing the point   |122.167.96.xxx |16-07-2009 23:14:04
As far as respecting views are considered, why is it that everytime men's problems are raised, why are invariably
women's problems brought to forth?

Why is a man not accepted the way he is?

I am a men's rights activist and will talk
about men's issues, but whenever I talk female pamperers raise their heads uncalled for and later pay the price.

I had
no intentions to target you, all I was doing was using your reaction as a psychological standpoint and creating
awareness, but you took it personally, your mistake, I cannot help that.

"And if I
ever get hit below the belt, I
will accept that as part of my fault and will live with it. I can swear by anyone you ask
me to that I won't lament and
take my..."

This is the biggest problem with men, they think they are too smart till they get hit below the belt
and they think its their fault only if they get hit below the belt.
Rohan  - Hardwired or uneducated?     |59.96.57.xxx |07-03-2011 21:20:16
Education is not about degrees and qualifications. It is about the ability to think for oneself and to rise above the
trappings of culture. Culture makes us think and react to situations and circumstances in a certain way. Such a culture
is designed by societies to meet its selfish ends. The hardwiring of Subhajit seems to have gone beyond limits and he
seems to be even proud of his slavery. His statement clearly shows that he is a proud slave. And he lacks the ability to
think beyond the trappings of his culture. He talks about his manhood and co-relates it with his ability to take on any
difficulty. This is exactly the medieval concept of a "Man" whose duty was to take on any difficulty without any
complaints. The medieval concept of a man was such that manhood was measured in terms of a man's ability to protect and
provide women and his ability to take on any difficulty without any emotions and fear. This is rubbish for today's
times.
Subhajit Dasgupta  - Comment Part 2     |72.29.214.xxx |15-07-2009 01:07:32
.....personal matter to the world. I think people who don't think smart get hit below the belt. Be careful and have a
bit of sense of humor, you will be just fine. It's life, not a jail man! And, by the way, don't believe in every article
you read, do some research and look at an issue from various angles. It's not only India, all oer the world the media is
not at the center of what is called 'unbiasedness', it' a little left or right. Only then I would trust an article you
post in your wall. While I want to sympathise with the guy who was thrown out, I don't buy the fact that the judge did
not find any evidence of domestic violence. I don't have time to research on that topic. Why don't you do that for me
and send me the link. That way you would probably learn another side of the story as well and figure if your judgement
was right.


"Male dominated world". If you can't see it, that's too bad. It's simple. The total number of
men in the world is more than total number of women. That's the reason. That's why India is essentially a country of
Hindu majority and Pakistan is a Muslim country. There are several laws for Muslims. Good people made the laws to ensure
equal rights. Some politicians created some to win votes. Same for women. It's misused. So what? Give me one law which
is not misused. Why do you lament and be a crying baby. When there is a huge population to handle, there are many
issues, some of them are intrinsic, some are unforeseen, whenever a law is passed. That doesn't mean I become biased and
shut the door and see life one dimensionally.

Again, I don't want to preach you man. You are grown up man, you are
married, you have your own judgement and as they say "a man is a best judge of himself". I just want to say,
there are two sides of a coin and if you blame me for showing you the other side, I am not gonna let you go. It doesn't
seem Sivsena wil...
Rohan     |59.96.57.xxx |07-03-2011 21:51:20
Subhajit, There cannot be an excuse for the unbiasedness of the media. In India as in most parts of the world, when it
comes to feminism and women's issues, the media is heavily towards women. This is definately beyond the normal line of
unbiasedness and it violates all media ethics. It violates the rights of men. P

Regarding male domination, I wish you
could provide me with a proper definition of what it means. If it is all about men working and women being homemakers in
many parts of India, you have got a wrong concept. Domination does not constitute that. It is because of culture and it
is unfortunate that men are made to sweat and toil outside the home and to protect and provide women. Domination is all
about one clan's rights over-powering the others.India is female dominated because only the female perspective is shown
and showcased in the media and society. The fact that men's suicide rate is more than 5 times the number of women is
brushed under the carpet. There is no mention of it in the media.

You have mentioned that the number of men is more
than women and have related that to domination. Its absurd. More men exist does not imply domination. There are various
reasons for the same.

You have given the excuse that just because laws are misused, the women-centric laws should
remain. In other words, misuse of laws does not make the law bad. But Subhajit, the women centric laws are
unconstitutional, against all legal ethics and violates human rights. Other laws that are misused are not as draconian
as this one. That is the BIG difference.
Subhajit Dasgupta  - Comment Part 3     |72.29.214.xxx |15-07-2009 01:08:31
... ever support Muslim rights, but say one day they go extreme in that end, then I am gonna criticize them just as much
as I do today for the opposite. I am a believer that life needs balance, and god has a great sense of humor.
Subhajit Dasgupta  - Comment 4     |72.29.214.xxx |15-07-2009 02:35:13
...Finally...the example you have given above, is not the example of pampering a woman in my book. I would call that a
reaction of a guy who probably has been estranged from girls all his life until he meets your vamp in the little
bollywood story you cooked up. That's not an issue of man to woman. That's an issue of the very society India has been
for ages. I did not grow up in village, so I don't know much about village culure, to be honest. But if that's your
point to prove a point, we are talking at different wave lengths. To me, pampering a woman is a process to get the best
out of her that a man longs for. Now, don't infer from this that I am taking about sex! i just thought to remind you
'coz God knows who is hardwired to think what these days!
Rohan     |59.96.57.xxx |07-03-2011 21:54:09
Subhajit, you cannot pamper women and then talk about equality. Ours is an equal society. Nobody should be and can be
pampered, whatever the reason maybe. If you pamper women to get the best out of them, you have to pamper men as well. P
Steven Iavarone  - owner     |70.21.185.xxx |15-07-2009 02:45:49
Virag,

You are most correct when you say Western men are running away from marriage with Western women. Yesterday I
read a stat that 40% of American babies are born out of wedlock.

80% of jobs lost in America are men losing jobs.
Women have everything, superior laws [men lost Due Process] better jobs [women sue if they are harrassed and they get a
free lawyer] and better marital life [with one phone call, when women get sick of husband, they call police and falesly
claim he hit her. The police remove the husband within two minutes, handcuffed and bring him to the police station to
be fingerprinted.

Yes it worked, to pamper the woman when she pampered you back. But today in America, the woman is
your opponent in getting a job, in politics and in being a parent to your child. Women here are brainwashed NOT to
pamper their husbands!

If any woman in an online dating website says she wants to pamper her husband, she is given a
severe tongue lashing by a feminst/s. Feminists looking to get married via online dating websites specifically repeat
"I do not NEED a man" but would like to hug someone.

American women have become impossible to please and
now they want to help Indian women, Muslim women and third world women. It's a shame how destroying and ripping apart
families, turning children against their fathers and giving all your savings account to lawyers is considered
helping.

Feminism has morphed to become a new form of economic enrichment for a very few while impoverishing many.
May the God/s above help us all.

Steven Iavarone

http://advice.eharmony.com/group/820/a-mans-po int-of-view.html


Another group I started
Subhajit Dasgupta  - Re: Comment from Virag     |72.29.214.xxx |16-07-2009 00:47:38
Virag,
When you take my comments personally, and dedicate an article on me, I am bound to take it personally, ain't I
?

Anyway, as long as you are trying to show the other side of coin that's fine, but don't make the mistake of
being oblivion of the first side of the coin. I don't want to disrespect anything you are doing, but honestly, to me,
this idea of sharing pain of a man through forums is somewhat irrelevant and opposite to feminism, hich is a shame. I
think if there is any way a man can and should and wants to share stories, there is no place for tears and lamentation
in that way. There are only two way, either to laugh off on the mistakes with bottle of beer and with a group of friends
(maybe coffee will ork if you don't drink alcohol) or just learn from your mistakes and move on. But, hey, that's what I
think. Maybe you have your own way, but I hope it's not an anti-feminism way.....I just think that's no the way I am
hardwired...lol..

And I am really not all into this..as I said, I respects everyone's perspective, and if you can't
take mine that's fine too. But bragging about not accepting mine is just not cool...that's why i reacted, nothing to do
with your persective dude...
Virag  - Again you are wrong and your analysis is also wron   |122.167.96.xxx |16-07-2009 23:21:24
"this idea of sharing pain of a man through forums is somewhat irrelevant and opposite to feminism, hich is a shame.
"

Feminism is not about rights to women. Feminism is all about male hatred which men do not realize. There is no
point in telling you to go through the articles in this website as well because you are feminist and will interpret the
articles adversely.

If you take things personally that's your fault, and you have to take responsibility for that. I
had used the friend's reference only to explain things better. If I was personal I could have easily taken your
name.

The article was dedicated to you so that you get the message.

Again, I have nothing personally against you. But
I have seen abuse of men first hand, come across it daily and these men are abused by the misuse of women protection
laws. And when protested the reaction that we (as men's rights activists) get is that since this is a male dominated
world, abuse of 'few' men is OK and in this process, almost every man goes through the abuse in some or the other
form.

And I also come across statements like, "Women are meant to be pampered". I ask you, Why? Why should
women be pampered? On what basis? Are men pampered? No, then why should women be pampered?

This whole concept of
pamperment of women is what needs to be eliminated.
Rohan  - Subhajit is a communist-feminist sex-hungry person   |59.92.203.xxx |08-03-2011 10:42:03
Its a combination of communist-feminist indoctrination together with sexual appetite that is making this guy stoop down
to the level of licking female boots. That is the reason he wants to pamper women and is silent about pampering men. His
notion of equality is male slavery and men being chained like dogs by women.
Steven Iavarone  - I am Jewish     |70.21.207.xxx |17-07-2009 15:45:30
Most kindly Subhajit Dasgupta I think you need to understand the history of Indian feminism. It started in America.
American feminists changed drastically to legislate men to death.

There is no Ghandian policies per American
feminists in ripping apart families for a trillion dollars. There is no Ghandi Peace Movement on the part of American
feminists today who are legal Uber Citizens.

They are killers, having killed thousands of divorced fathers per
VAWA, false DV & Parental Alienation. As American feminists go, so too do Indian, Arabic, African and other feminists
go.

You can support a violent anti-Ghandian movement if you want to. I have won the John F. Kennedy Citizenship
Memorial Award. I was born very poor on welfare. Was a Democrat like Mr. Kennedy my whole childhood and young
adulthood.

But I changed to become Political Independent because of the Political Correct who are anti-family,
anti-culture, anti-heterosexual,* anti-male and anti YOUR Constitution [of any country.]

To say men cannot complain
is misinformed. Men are Human Beings. Even Mr. Ghandi realized that. Treat us as human beings. A man can cry, laugh,
play and be himself without being censured and punished for having been born male.

In America, feminists control
most social websites. Feminists control man's speech via the internet, at work and in marriage. Say one wrong word and
you can lose your job. That is fair to you? FEMINISTS CONTROL, MEN OBEY.

It is most obvious sir that you are for
Superior Rights to women. German Nazis believed they were superior and look how many they killed. American feminists
[and Indian ones by relation]
HAVE KILLED THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT MEN LIKE MY BROTHER.

I ALMOST COMMITTED SUICIDE
BECAUSE OF UNFAIR VAWA AND LOSING MY SON. It is not Tzedaka for me, being Jewish to support violent criminals like
feminists.

Any religious Jewish law...
Rohan     |59.96.57.xxx |07-03-2011 22:00:13
Subhajit,
I am a hardcore anti-feminist and I would say a masculist. It is my right to be a masculist ( a men's rights
activist). Why is it wrong to be so? Feminism has destroyed lives of men and families globally. It intends to fight and
enslave men, keep them traditional and oppressed (like you proudly want to be) and liberate women alone. What do you
have to say for this?
Sumanth  - Men are the Disposable sex.     |59.92.155.xxx |16-07-2009 13:00:09
Subhajit,

You wrote:
------------
"Male dominated world". If you can't see it, that's too bad. It's simple. The
total number of men in the world is more than total number of women.
------------

You are wrong and your analysis is
also wrong.

It is nature's law that 5% less girls compared to boys are born. That is, for every 1000 boys, 950 girls
are born.
(Refer Argumentative Indian-Amaryta Sen)

The average life expectancy of women world wide is more than
men.

You are entitled to your views. However, if your arguments contribute to denial of justice to men, denial of
protection to men facing violence, then you will face stiff opposition.

If the notion "male dominated world" is
used by a set of alpha males or hardwired males to deny basic rights to men, then there bound to be opposition.

This
opposition is political and it can get nasty as well.

According to me, "Men are considered Disposable" by the
society.

This does not help men and this does not help women as well.

Men are also over confident logical fools, who
love to dig their own graves.

It is the men, who oppose men's rights more than women or feminists.

Male Feminists are
actually chivalrous MCPs. They get involved with feminism as that reinforces their belief that women are weak.

The male
identity is stuck in 16th century, where as females have evolved.
men still want to protect and provide for women, even
while world has headed towards gender equality.

So, this over burdens men, who are emotionally ********d at the age of
7 in anyway. Yet, men are numb and they do not see it unless it hits them hard one fine day.
Akshay  - I can't agree with u more!!!   |115.187.54.xxx |30-07-2009 15:57:57
Virag,

This idiot called Subhajit Dasgupta is the norm mind u. I feel sorry for u Virag, u have to deal with this
amount of lunacy and brainlessness.

Men are notoriously stupid. This one line quotes it all...
"And if I ever get
hit below the belt, I will accept that as part of my fault and will live with it."

What an idiot. Really. If men
are this stupid and women are this evil maybe they deserve each other. Certainly ain't my problem. This lunatic really
believes he deserves all the humiliation and hatred from women. Why not? When getting laid is at stake, humiliations
comes with the task.

This is a reason why I am not an MRA, but an MGHOW (Man going his own way)
Its futile to try and
wake up these morons. I don't know why u keep trying, but I prefer to grab the best seat in the house, buy some popcorn
and cola and enjoy the destruction of society from a safe distance. Feel lucky, u r enlightened and stay single, enjoy
life. Avoid vagina beasties and their traps. Live free. Actually 498a and other atrocious laws don't matter unless u r
married or in a relationship with vermins, eer...wimmins. Good luck.
Rohan   |59.92.203.xxx |08-03-2011 11:03:58
Akshay, when the brain is in the penis, what can you expect? And on top, when the brain has grown in communist
heartland, what can you expect?
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